tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post819101711555617309..comments2016-09-29T02:10:54.308-06:00Comments on Take Our Church Back!: Fellow ParishionersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-22684258280445123032011-11-23T14:04:55.048-07:002011-11-23T14:04:55.048-07:00This is one of the saddest things one can imagine....This is one of the saddest things one can imagine. From afar, this looks pretty simple.<br /><br />Petty "local" politics wanting authority and access to funds which historically have been raised for the benefit of a united Parish by pillars of the Greater Salt Lake Community...<br /><br />A collection of priests, who have shown brazen disregard for the order of the Archdiocese of North America, which has indicated a unified Parish is preferred and sensible...<br /><br />A group of appointed Parish Council members -- who but the Parishoners can appoint their council? How absurd is that?! -- who appear neutered or unwilling to correct/right a strident behavior by local priests who seem destined to kiss the ring of a certain Metropolitan who wants to impose His holy authority beyond anything the community has traditionally experienced and, by furthering and cultivating the local collection of aspirants for independence, he has now meddled into a local Parish beyond any manner he ever should have.<br /><br />A North American Archdiocese who, at some point, needs to "weigh in" and direct the Church hierarchy in the Rockies to behave and, more likely, inform the local priests that they have now, sadly, vanquished any hope of credibility in the community. The priests in town should start looking for new parishes, since no one is going to follow their leadership after this behavior.<br /><br />The idea of a great orthodox Christian, Con Skedros, sitting outside of that Church after devoting his life to it is, to put it pointedly, the most repugnant thing one can imagine. People like Mr. Bapis, Mr. Skedros, Mr. Korologos and so many others have contributed to the preservation and enhancement of the Greater Salt Lake community beyond anything the hierarchical politics can possibly understand.<br /><br />The Greater Salt Lake parish will remain united, and the leadership, up to the Patriarch's level, should now be on notice that they should replace leadership and return the situation to a stable normalcy.<br /><br />Modifying the charter, adopting amendments, other structural changes could all have been entirely feasible and accomplished had leadership been interested in maintaining the integrity of the Greater Salt Lake Parish and supporting the virtue of a unified Orthodox community under a united infrastructure.<br /><br />Instead, personal objective by a number of local people and personal ego on the part of some in the Orthodox hierarchy have created a mess.<br /><br />Now that the food has been spilled on the floor, only actions by the Archdiocese of North America or the Patriarch can make this right. And it's about time they acted.Christos Kyrmadiasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-46530216753036847102011-11-18T09:21:02.081-07:002011-11-18T09:21:02.081-07:002 o'clock Nia.2 o'clock Nia.Yannis Armaounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-36262495951569255982011-11-18T07:20:52.394-07:002011-11-18T07:20:52.394-07:00Perhaps I am missing something but what time on Su...Perhaps I am missing something but what time on Sunday? I would like to be there but I haven't seen a time posted.Niahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17664604288447871325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-61146323969752294502011-11-17T09:57:47.500-07:002011-11-17T09:57:47.500-07:00Steve, thank you for the advice. Everyone should r...Steve, thank you for the advice. Everyone should read this.Bill Rekouniotisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-40860315155657275822011-11-16T15:35:00.896-07:002011-11-16T15:35:00.896-07:00I hope they bring their handcuffs, there's one...I hope they bring their handcuffs, there's one person we would all love to see hauled away. Giddy up!Bill Rekouniotisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-28201729413101969802011-11-16T15:23:10.137-07:002011-11-16T15:23:10.137-07:00“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant...“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.” Plato<br /><br />Do not argue with the police officer. He is only doing his job and is not familiar with the intricacies of the unethical actions of the current "leadership".<br /><br />Be prepared for the "clergy" to tell the officer that you are not a member in good standing and they are to issue you a trespass order. If that is the case do not argue or enter into a debate with the person issuing the order or the officer. <br /><br />Step back and avoid any action or make any statement that could be construed as aggressive or potentially violent.<br /><br />If there is any attempt to bar any member of the community from the meeting it will be a public relations disaster for the current "leaders". <br /><br />I still don't think they have the intestinal fortitude to do it, but I do think they are stupid enough to try. <br /><br />Ελευθερία!!!<br /><br />Remember NOV 20, The new OXI Day.Steve Gamvroulasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-31458970448974660682011-11-15T23:10:43.839-07:002011-11-15T23:10:43.839-07:00Bill,
The police can be hired to be there to make...Bill, <br />The police can be hired to be there to make sure that no one violates any laws. They cannot prevent us from entering our own church. If a police officer tries to stop or arrest us from entering OUR church, he will be intervening in a civil matter, not a criminal issue and will end up being sued. If they see a crime or a crime about to happen then they will act to keep the peace. But entering your own church for a meeting is not against the law, in fact, it is our right. If a police officer arrests me or stops me from entering my church I will file a civil rights action against him. Police do not like getting sued for violating the public's civil rights and when they are acting as rent-a-cops they are even more cautious and will not over step their authority. In fact, I'm happy the police will be there to act as witnesses to what takes place. These police officers will not get involved in our civil dispute unless we give them a reason to do so. What the police witness is all that matters. If they see anyone make a threat or act like they will get violent then the officers will get involved. Now wouldn't that just make the other side happy? I'm not going to give them the pleasure.Jim Sefandonakishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14404070545621344740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3195909349513705056.post-12382360563776654032011-11-15T20:22:07.581-07:002011-11-15T20:22:07.581-07:00I understand on Sun. Nov 20th at the Special Paris...I understand on Sun. Nov 20th at the Special Parish Assembly, there will be police officers at the door. Marshal Dillon went out and got Chester and Festus. VOTE NO!.Bill Rekouniotisnoreply@blogger.com