“Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,

and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

But it shall not be so among you:

but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto,

but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:25-28, KJV)


The word the Athenians used for their Assembly was Ekklesia, the same word used in the New Testament for Church
(and it is the greatest philological irony in all of Western history that this word,
which connoted equal participation in all deliberation by all members,
came to designate a kind of self-perpetuating, self-protective Spartan gerousia -
which would have seemed patent nonsense to Greek-speaking Christians of New Testament times,
who believed themselves to be equal members of their Assembly.)

- Thomas Cahill, Sailing the Wine-Dark Sea: Why the Greeks Matter




ΦΙΛΟΤΙΜΟ: THE GREEK SECRET


Friday, September 21, 2012

MATH IS THE LANGUAGE OF GOD'S UNIVERSE

I am sorry to say that even the makeup of the current parish council which I ratified demonstrates a clear division between those who identify with the Holy Trinity Cathedral and those who identify with Prophet Elias Church. Some responsibility regarding this sad reality also rests with our Archdiocese in New York.
- Metropolitan Isaiah, Letter to the Greek Orthodox Community of Greater Salt Lake, dated September 4, 2012 
His Eminence is "sorry" about a misconception he has concerning the current elected parish council. However, his sorrow does not make his observation accurate.


It is a really funny thing about free elections: their outcomes tend to reflect accurately the wishes and aspirations of those voting. As opposed to appointed parish councils, where appointees and clergy sought constantly to stack the deck against the vast majority, this parish council quite accurately reflects the will of the parishioners in this community.

To illustrate, let us return - once again - to the original 2007 survey which showed just 13% of respondents in favor of splitting this community.  At present there is only one vocal parish council member who favors splitting the community. There may be one or two more who might favor splitting, depending on the circumstances surrounding such an action.

Stephen Hawking, the renowned astrophysicist once famously said, "Mathematics is the language of God's universe."

So, let's do the math.

If only one parish council member favors a split, that amounts to 7% of the council. If we're being generous and consider that three parish council members might favor a split, that would be 20%. And, if we take the average, and consider two members favor this split and we come up with, lo and behold, THIRTEEN percent!

Math is, indeed, the language of God's universe!

Tuesday, September 11, 2012

AND SO THE GAMES CONTINUE!

On a spring day a few months ago our Metropolitan finally allowed us what was, even under the oft-cited, cherry-picked and highly flawed UPRs, our right and our due. He deigned to allow a open general assembly and then free elections. He also said, “no restrictions” on WHO could run, or WHO could be elected. We were of course pleased. We figured everyone involved was exhausted and finally understood it was time to turn “swords into plowshares”.

It is really nice that our Metropolitan starts out his August letter thanking the community and its elected parish council (with still one member yet to be sworn in, despite the assurances that "anyone" could run and could be elected!) for its attempts to reach out to all in a spirit of unity, understanding and forgiveness. He further offers prayers that such a spirit will continue to grow.

Strangely, (or, perhaps not so?), he then proceeds in that same letter to offer a highly tortured, utterly inconsistent, explanation as to why HE instructed three parishioners to, yet again, establish a separate corporation – for Prophet Elias only!

In regard to the other letter of the same date, which requests information about the renewal of the Prophet Elias Corporation, please know that as the hierarch of the Metropolis of Denver, I am obligated to oversee all the parishes which are officially under the Archdiocese through the Metropolis. The community of Salt Lake is reincorporated from 1974 as an independent corporation solely under the State of Utah. The Prophet Elias Corporation on the other hand, is recognized as a legal name under the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. This was my decision in order to conform to the Uniform Parish Regulations. In making this important distinction I am able to recognize the greater community composed of faithful stewards as being an integral part of the Archdiocese.
Establishing a corporation for only ONE of the two churches in this community in no way conforms to the UPRs. Nor, of course, is it applicable to the well-established exception this community legally enjoys, and has upheld by vote last November, despite dire threats from the hierarchy of what could happen if this community did not foreswear that exception.

Further, in making what he says is “this 'important' distinction”, the Metropolitan claims that he is recognizing what he calls “the greater community composed of faithful stewards”.

Your Eminence, the greater community in this valley, is composed of faithful stewards, who have proven, time and again, that, whichever church they might attend here on any given Sunday or holiday, they all belong to the Greek Orthodox Community of Greater Salt Lake, comprised of TWO ekklesies that our forebears built, Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Cathedral and Prophet Elias Greek Orthodox Church, both under the aegis of one Greek Orthodox community. We know you don't like the arrangement, but this has worked for us, and this is what we still want. After all we have been through, the excuse that yet again establishing a separate P.E. corporation “protects” that particular church from a takeover by a charlatan clergyman is both dishonest and absurd.

In no way can there be a recognition of Prophet Elias Greek Orthodox Church as a separate corporation under the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. Archbishop Demetrios and the Holy Synod were highly specific in a letter to our community in March 2011:
"The ecclesiastical charter that was issued on April 10, 2010 is to be considered inapplicable and consequently withdrawn. Similarly, the Prophet Elias corporation will be formally dissolved and no separate trade names will be filed with the state of Utah for Holy Trinity and Prophet Elias." (emphasis added)
We have before pointed out that this passage by our Archbishop seems utterly unclear to Mr. Shand et al. Additionally, these explicit statements seem to have confused our Metropolitan and his counselors as well! Of course in his September letter our erstwhile Metropolitan throws the Archbishop under the bus, along with everyone else. He himself accepts no blame in causing any of this strife.

In the Metropolitan's August letter, he goes on to state:
Moreover, from your letter you state that the renewal of the Prophet Elias Corporation is divisive in nature. In regard to divisiveness, what can I say about parish funds which must be under the direct custodianship of the Parish Council, but are under separate corporations such as the HighTower investment firm in Chicago, the separate Hellenic Cultural Foundation and the Greek Orthodox Trust Committee? Are these not equally, if not more, divisive than the Prophet Elias Corporation which has no funds?

Question: How does the community even know that there are no funds? Are we to believe that the unelected principals of the renewed corporation do not know how to open a checking account?

The metropolitan's assertion also poses a false equivalency. The HCF and the trust committee are entities overwhelmingly approved by general assembly VOTES, and one of the trustees of such, is always the parish council president. Obviously this fact gives the Parish Council OVERSIGHT! The situation is set up in a manner quite similar to Leadership 100, or is the Metropolitan now disapproving of that institution as well?

Conversely, no general assembly in this valley has ever approved any initial establishment, or any renewal, of a separate Prophet Elias Corporation. This latest action is in direct contradiction to the Archbishop's revocation of a separate charter for Prophet Elias. It also runs counter to SEVERAL directly expressed votes and surveys by the overwhelming majority of members of this community over the past several years. Moreover, it should be remembered that the Metropolitan said he would honor those votes!

Where in the UPRs does it state that two or three members can simply take a church’s identity and claim it as a corporation in their names, without any election or grant of authority by the general assembly? This is, simply put, yet another putsch by a minority, who have the Metropolitan's ear, with tacit approval by at least one of the local clergy, to split this community and take over the church on behalf of the wishes of, again, a TINY MINORITY.

Furthering the false equivalency, there is absolutely nothing divisive about the separate accounts designated for specifically allocated projects for this community. These were voted on and approved by the general assembly. Just as funds were collected and donated for the pavilion and prayer garden at Prophet Elias (and, at a time when the dome and roof still leaks!), so funds have been collected and dedicated for various other projects for the community. It is not up to the Metropolitan, or the very few, to claim that these allocated funds can be diverted to other purposes. It would be dishonest to do so when these funds were gathered for specific purposes and upgrades. In fact, the Metropolitan's freezing of said funds has limited the interest those funds could be collecting; it has also put the specific projects for which they were gathered on an indefinite hold. It would be tragic if people who had hoped to see projects completed in honor of loved ones’ memories, may not live to witness such, due to the freezing of these funds by the Metropolitan. Surely it is past time that this situation be rectified! And, since he is so fond of bringing up the afterlife, … συγνὠμη, δἐσποτα, αλλά τι ψυχή θα παραδὠσεις εσὐ σε αυτή την περίπτωση;

It is unfortunate, yet not surprising, that during these past years, when this community had no voice in its own governance, that stewardship dried up. A repressed and unrepresented laity had no other way of making its despair known. If the problem ended up in the courts, the Metropolitan and his cronies are to blame. Pleas and entreaties to the appointed - not elected, to the clergy and the hierarchy, for too long fell on deaf ears. This community has not forgotten that the Metropolitan, in attempting to force a split before the Archdiocese's letter in 2011, was simply demanding that all funds be split, regardless of their original intended use. The Metropolitan is now clearly insinuating that these funds ought to be part of repaying past due allocations for the Archdiocese. There is no doubt that it is unfortunate that the other parishes were forced to shoulder that burden on our behalf. This unfair system portrays yet another travesty to be found in the current Uniform Parish Regulations that were rammed through the supposedly representative Clergy-Laity Congresses.

The Metropolitan blames six individuals who, on behalf of a very large majority in this community, and AS REPRESENTATIVES of that great majority, sued the intransigent appointed parish council members who would not hold an open general assembly, would not provide lists of members that were legally requested, would not provide any sort of transparency, would not conduct audits as they were legally bound to do, and did not have the guts to tell the Metropolitan that they would not betray their own community! Now the Metropolitan asserts that the six "who consider themselves members" (THEY ARE MEMBERS!!!) who represented hundreds, should themselves pay the legal costs of the appointed parish council members. This is nonsense. That lawsuit only occurred because the appointed parish council members themselves were in violation of civil law, AND, of the UPRs. If anything, your intransigent appointed should pay their own legal bills. Yet the elected parish council, in the spirit of forgiveness and unity, is, instead doing so. How we do it is our business. Instead of gratitude for the spirit of forgiveness, we see belligerence.

Our Metropolitan ought to consider that if this community finds itself struggling today, that struggle is directly attributable to his ongoing interference in non-spiritual matters, to his high-handedness in acting on behalf of the very few, to his continuing to seek means by which to split our community on behalf of that very few – despite the majority’s objections, and to his allowing this situation to endure far too long, even after the Archbishop and the Holy Synod asked that it stop. It is long past time that this miserable situation he himself created cease!

The Metropolitan made a step in the right direction last spring. (He refers to it as "bending over backwards".) He allowed a parish assembly, followed by free and open elections, supposedly with no restrictions as to who might be nominated and elected. He then, once again having given his word, reneged, and disallowed two members until such time as the lawsuit was withdrawn. It was withdrawn and in the meantime one elected member withdrew his name. The other still awaits swearing in, and NOW the Metropolitan says that the appointed parish council's attorney's fees must be paid - and how they must be paid - before such can occur.

In taking these bizarre actions, in making these absurd claims, as well as in insinuating himself into the minutiae of governance in this community, the Metropolitan simply is setting a poor example to his flock, and most particularly to our youth. He is our spiritual leader, yet it is he, not we, who confuses the spiritual with the temporal; and, it is he, more than we, who is consumed with money. If nothing else: surely a spiritual leader's word ought to mean something? Surely a spiritual leader can guide, can encourage, without resorting to pettiness, insinuations, back-door machinations? In his own words, "is this not a demonstration of separation and divisiveness?"

Your deeds speak louder than your words, Your Eminence, and neither have always been loving nor kind. You say you "bent over backwards?" No. You go backwards and you go back on your word. Time and again you seek to drag this community back with you. We are not going back.

In your letter you said, "please let us be sincere and forthright, since we are serving our Lord." We can all progress together, unified, in a spirit of cooperation and love. We really can forgive and forget. Or, we can have the disharmony, discord and stagnation of the past few years. You can either guide us, with Christ’s example of the good shepherd, or you can continue to throw out roadblocks and obstacles.

We can move forward if we all set our egos aside, or, the games can continue. The choice is yours, but we are not going back!

Sunday, September 9, 2012

John Saltas Responds to Metropolitan Isaiah's Letter

After reading the latest nonsensical and divisive letter from the Metropolitan, the obvious becomes even more so:

The single common thread of 50 years of confusion in the Salt Lake City Parish is the Metropolitan himself.

  • This community has behaved honestly and ethically--he has not.
  • He disavows fair elections.
  • He makes excuses and false rationale. 
  • He sets a bar, then moves it. 
  • He orders secret acts (establishing Prophet Elias as a corporation for dubious reasons) from parishioners then seems amazed at what comes. 
  • How many good people--our friends and neighbors--have left due to his behavior? 
  • How much has that cost this community in hurt feelings? Hurt our image? Hurt this community financially? 
This is not a Salt Lake City problem. This is not a problem of the people comprising this parish. This is a problem of the clergy and leadership of the Greek Orthodox Church and it is rooted in the Metropolitan seat in Denver.

Saturday, September 8, 2012

Nick Colessides Responds to the Metropolitan's Latest Letter to Our Community

Dear All,

During the Watergate days Senator Sam Ervin was right.  He said “follow the money."

Once again the Denver Metropolitan, by his latest correspondence proves that in his mind “it is all about the money.”  He wants to get his greedy hands on the Parish’s money.  All the money that our Parish/Community has, in the accounts he has referenced, belongs to the Community.  The money belongs to the Greek Orthodox Church of Greater Salt Lake.  That money can ONLY be disbursed by the commands of the community's General Assembly; not his.

We have only one answer for him:  Μολών Λαβέ!  It is the answer that the Greeks gave to the Persians.  It is the reason that the 300 Spartans sacrificed themselves against tyranny.

The Denver Aghios flip-flops on his word.  He prevaricates.

We need immediate action to repel the aggressive, unchristian actions and words of the Denver Metropolitan.  This fight will never end until the Denver Metropolitan is replaced by a caring and loving man of God.  And, the sooner the better.

Filakia to all.

Nick Colessides

P.S.  Please distribute as widely as you can, and ask our parishioners, and those in other parishes, to join the fight against the Denver Metropolitan's inequities and offensive conduct.

Metropolitan's Letter to GOCGSL, September 4, 2012

The following letter was sent to Father Kouremetis and distributed by him to Father Gilbert and to the Parish Council during our Greek Festival Weekend. In keeping with their promise to keep the community informed in these matters, the Parish Council distributed this letter to the community via e-mail on September 8. The Metropolitan's original correspondence may be viewed here.


GREEK ORTHODOX METROPOLIS OF DENVER

September 4, 2012

Rev. Michael Kouremetis, Proistamenos
Rev. Matthew Gilbert, Proistamenos
Mr. Dimitrios Tsagaris, Council President
The Esteemed Parish Council
The Greek Orthodox Church of Greater Salt Lake
Holy Trinity Cathedral
Prophet Elias Church
5335 S. Highland Dr.
Holladay, UT 84117

Beloved in the Lord,

I am in receipt of a letter signed by Mr. Dimitrios Tsagaris, the Parish Council President dated August 23, 2012. The letter informs me that there was a final resolution regarding the attorney fees owed by the community pertaining to the recent lawsuit filed by five individuals in October, 2011 against eight members of the previous parish council.

Mr. Tsagaris' letter requests that I now ratify the election of the final candidate who was elected, Mr. Yannis Armaou, the rationale being that a final resolution of the lawsuit had been achieved. In this legal action five individuals who consider themselves members of the community sued the eight former council members. The total financial cost against the parish in the form of attorney fees was originally $56,467.10, with the spiritual cost being far greater. Your insurance carrier paid $25,000 of the debt leaving the balance to be paid by the community. After being given a discount the community is obligated to pay $28,000 to the attorney who defended the eight council members.

Reflecting back these past two and one-half years, I became aware of the fact that a vocal group of parishioners preferred to believe the un-Christian gossip and accusations against other parishioners, against the office of a bishop in the Church, and even against our Ecumenical Patriarch. Adding to this detrimental behavior, many parishioners were encouraged to give nothing or a mere token stewardship commitment so that they would be able to vote at the ensuing general assembly and to vote at the recent parish council elections. As you know, I relaxed almost all the requirements to allow this to happen.

Yet the fact remains that your community has four separate accounts, which are not under the current Parish Council, clearly in contrast to the Archdiocese Uniform Parish Regulations which state that all funds of a parish must be under the custodianship of each current parish council. The separate funds in your community are the HighTower investments, the Greek Orthodox Community Restoration Fund, the Skedros Memorial Fund, and the Hellenic Community Foundation.

In the face of this reality, and due to a cash flow problem in the community, you are now taking the current stewardship of parisr..ioners in order to pay the attorney fees of the lawsuit. Furthermore, the sequence of events following the lawsuit has caused increasing financial instability, including the community's inability to pay its commitments to the Archdiocese. These important points force me to pause in regard to ratifying Mr. Armaou's election to the Council given his role as a plaintiff. Until all problematic financial matters related to this have been resolved, Mr. Armaou's status will remain pending.

In my letter of ratification to the previous parish council, dated May 29, 2012, I called to attention the words of Saint Paul found in his first epistle to the Corinthians (6: 1-8) which prohibit church members from suing their fellow members. On the basis of this Scriptural exhortation, it appears most logical and correct to expect the five individuals who filed the lawsuit against their fellow parishioners to pay the $28,000 to the attorney. After all, the debt is a direct result of their action in opposition to Holy Scripture. This would eliminate the need to use the stewardship funds of the parishioners to pay an invoice which does not rightly belong to them. To compound this anomaly, the statement is made in the recent letter sent out to the parishioners that no management fees were paid to one of the individuals who sued along with the other four, who controls the largest amount of community funds. Undoubtedly the $28,000 in legal fees negate any benefit gained in this regard.

One positive statement I discovered in the letters sent to me in reference to the operating accounts of the parish was that, "We were assured to know that none of the accounts have been mishandled .. . " Obviously, this clears the names of the members of the previous parish councils.

Please know that this whole affair saddens me greatly. In my fifty years in the holy priesthood beginning at the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Salt Lake City in 1962, I have never encountered so much anger and animosity and division in one parish. Attempting to analyze this whole tragedy, only one common string stands out; money! Are we a church or a secular business?

I am sorry to say that even the makeup of the current parish council which I ratified demonstrates a clear division between those who identify with the Holy Trinity Cathedral and those who identify with Prophet Elias Church. Some responsibility regarding this sad reality also rests with our Archdiocese in New York.

My exhortation to all of you is to consider all real estate and all funds secondary to who we are. We are Greek Orthodox Christians who are members of Christ's Church because we believe in His words that our eternal condition will be either with Him in His glorious Kingdom or we will be in the eternal darkness with the devil and all of his fallen angels.

When we came into this world, we found His Church for our salvation, and after we are gone, His Church will remain for those who seek Him and His unchanging truths.

With paternal love,

/s/

+Metropolitan Isaiah of Denver

Sunday, September 2, 2012

Metropolitan's Letter to GOCGSL, August 20, 2012

The original of this letter may be viewed here. The letter was also distributed to the community via email by the Parish Council.

GREEK ORTHODOX METROPOLIS OF DENVER

August 20, 2012

Rev. Michael Kouremetis, Proistamenos
Rev. Matthew Gilbert, Proistamenos
Mr. Dimitrios Tsagaris, Parish Council President
The Esteemed Parish council Members
The Greek Orthodox Church of Greater Salt Lake
Holy Trinity Cathedral
Prophet Elias Church
5335 S. Highland Dr. Holladay, UT 84117

Beloved in the Lord,

I thank you for your three letters which I received last week, two dated July 27, 2012 and one dated August 13, 2012.

In regard to your letter pertaining to the state of the Greek Orthodox Church of Greater Salt Lake, I am most pleased that it conveys a positive spirit. The focus on unity and progress, rather than the negativity of expressions these past two years is most encouraging. I pray that this spirit will continue to grow and to prevail among you and among all the parishioners.

Allow me to cite one point in the letter. You mention that the Parish Council has chosen to develop leadership centered on parishioner involvement through committees. This is very good. However, please keep in mind that every committee of the parish must have a member of the Parish Council as chairman of that committee. Furthermore, all decisions of all committees are considered recommendations to the Parish Council for discussion and acceptance or rejection. This process guarantees that it is the Parish Council which officially represents the parish membership, which ultimately makes all decisions.

In regard to the other letter of the same date, which requests information about the renewal of the Prophet Elias Corporation, please know that as the hierarch of the Metropolis of Denver, I am obligated to oversee all the parishes which are officially under the Archdiocese through the Metropolis. The community of Salt Lake is reincorporated from 1974 as an independent corporation solely under the State of Utah. The Prophet Elias Corporation on the other hand, is recognized as a legal name under the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. This was my decision in order to conform to the Uniform Parish Regulations. In making this important distinction I am able to recognize the greater community composed of faithful stewards as being an integral part of the Archdiocese.

Furthermore, the updating of the corporate record with the name, Prophet Elias, guarantees that no other entity in the future can legally use this name. It will continue to be identified with the Greek Orthodox Church. This is important in that we see an increasing number of self-appointed clergymen beginning to use the word "Orthodox" as well as the names of the saints to maintain their congregations which are slowly eroding.

Unfortunately, the 1974 reincorporation recognizes the community solely as a secular organization, rather than as a religious entity. The recent decision of the judge who presided over the litigation against parish members shows the confusion, since he never once referred to the matter as a religious issue involving the inner governance of a religious institution. He obviously knew that secular courts cannot involved themselves in the administrative affairs of churches.

Moreover, from your letter you state that the renewal of the Prophet Elias Corporation is divisive in nature. In regard to divisiveness, what can I say about parish funds which must be under the direct custodianship of the Parish Council, but are under separate corporations such as the HighTower investment firm in Chicago, the separate Hellenic Cultural Foundation and the Greek Orthodox Trust Committee? Are these not equally, if not more, divisive than the Prophet Elias Corporation which has no funds?

I urge all of you, as members of the current Parish Council, to work in this vital direction, which has divided the income of the community and consequently divides the current membership of the community. The fact of the matter is that it is the way that the money of the parishioners is divided among those other separate accounts which has created this divisiveness among the membership. A direct consequence of this reality is the fact that the community has paid nothing to the Archdiocese for the year 2011 and very little for 2012. And it appears that there is no thought or willingness on the part of those in control to correct this problem. The forty-eight other parishes of this Metropolis have paid the financial obligation of the Salt Lake community for 2011, and there is no concern by the Salt Lake parish to assume its responsibility and obligation to show that it is a vital member parish of the Denver Metropolis. Is this not a demonstration of separation and divisiveness?

As all of you know, I bent over backwards to allow all the parishioners and others among them to vote and to be voted upon for the sake of assisting your unity. Can I not expect some kind of reciprocity from the community through you, the elected council members?

Please let us be sincere and forthright, since we are serving the Church which our Lord established through the Cross and through His Resurrection. We are responsible first to Him and then to one another.

I remain positive in my spirit that you, as the current Parish Council, will do whatever is necessary to please our loving God and to bring unity, peace, and love to God's people, whom you have accepted to serve in His holy name.

With paternal blessings,

+Metropolitan Isaiah of Denver

Thursday, July 19, 2012

LET THE GAMES BEGIN - AGAIN! ?

“A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.”
― Winston Churchill


From the decision of the Holy Eparchial Synod and Archbishop Demetrios in a Letter to the Greek Orthodox Community of Greater Salt Lake dated March 24, 2011:

"The ecclesiastical charter that was issued on April 10, 2010 is to be considered inapplicable and consequently withdrawn. Similarly, the Prophet Elias corporation will be formally dissolved and no separate trade names will be filed with the state of Utah for Holy Trinity and  Prophet Elias."

Mr. Shand is an attorney. Aside from the pure peevishness by him and his cohorts, surely no part of this statement is confusing, vague or unambiguous! So, yet again, as if this hasn't been pointed out over and over again, what part of "NO SEPARATE TRADE NAMES" is unclear?

Further, the people listed below must have felt that there was a clear "go ahead" signal - since they reinstated their attempt to separately incorporate the church they intend to separate from this community on the very same day that the suit against a former selected parish council was dropped! Obviously, this action once again provides "hope" for the very few who want to effect a land grab, and to continue the shenanigans that caused this debacle.

Since they don't have the fortitude and the faith to do what our grandparents did and build their own church, they intend, yet again - STILL, after nearly destroying what it took decades to build -  through their own selfishness, to try to take a church and its assets away from this community.

Not on our watch!



Wednesday, July 11, 2012

WHAT GIVES?

It would seem that one could be forgiven for asking this question!
  • The lawsuit has been dismissed. 
  • All but one of the elected parish council members has been sworn in, despite dismissal of the lawsuit - which was a CONDITION of sweraring in the remaining candidates. Mr. Bapis chose to decline - Mr. Armaou did NOT - the suit is dismissed - Mr. Armaou MUST and SHOULD be sworn in IMMEDIATELY! 
  • And, ULTIMATELY, the community is NOT to be split. 
Yet Mr. Bruce Shand has, despite any of these circumstances, apparently, failed to disband registration for a separate corporate entity for Prophet Elias Greek Orthodox Church! (Note: others for "disobeying" -  for far less -  were SANCTIONED! We demand EQUAL treatment for Mr. Shand!)

Actually, it seems that the TWO corporate entities in the name of the Prophet Elias Church were disbanded once the decision was made to leave the community intact and to have a general assembly followed by free and fair elections. The one showing Mr. Mylonakis as registered agent was, and still appears to be, inactivated. Mr. Shand's registration showed as inactive throughout late April and all of May. Yet it was activated on June 4th - the SAME day the plaintiffs signed to dismiss the lawsuit against former parish council members! Is this a coincidence?
At a time when this community is desperately trying to heal, it seems that the diehards in a small minority are STILL insistent, despite several votes indicating NO SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT for a split, and will not let this go!

What part of "NO" isn't being understood? 

The parish council, the clergy and the hierarchy should immediately INSIST that this entity be inactivated. Enough is enough! Let the dividers STOP!

Monday, June 11, 2012

A MEMBER OF THE ELECTIONS COMMITTEE SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT

Moderators' Note:  In the recent letter we received from the Metropolitan prior to his ratification of 13 of 15 elected parish council members, some controversy has arisen. The Metropolitan was obviously informed as to highly specific stewardship issues with some of the newly elected members. It was - erroneously - assumed that the Election Committee had informed the Metropolitan of the "stewardship problems". 

Mr. Dean Dinas, member of the Election Committee, has asked that we post the following comments he would like to make regarding the subject.


I summarize below the process as it occurred during this Parish Council Election:

a) The Metropolis of Denver recognized our vetting process as meeting their [temporarily relaxed] standard for Parish Council candidates this time, and the clergy+Holy Trinity Cathedral Administrator solely reviewed Stewardship records. 
b) After they were satisfied the candidates met the Metropolis' standard, they sent [just] the summary to the Metropolis; the Election Commitee never had access to Stewardship records, and, per UPRs, accepted the vetting process, and this level of detail was never shared with the Metropolis of Denver. 
c) The Election Committee and office of the GOCSLC which sent the summary of this vetting process had no other contact with the Metropolis of Denver between the time they sent the vetted list to the Metropolis and after the Elections. 
d) At no time during this process did the detailed Stewardship records of the Parish Council candidates leave the control of the Holy Trinity Cathedral church office or the clergy who vetted the candidates to run. There was no reason for any database containing these records to be accessed or shared, other than for the purposes of LOCAL church office analysis in the vetting of the candidates.
As a member of the GOCSLC Election Committee, I can confirm the above, since I was in continuing contact with the Holy Trinity Cathedral Administrator to ensure we were all in compliance with the Metropolis of Denver standards, and the UPRs as they applied to the Election Committee.

- Dean C. Dinas

ΠΑΝΤΑ ΑΧΙΟΙ !!!

Dear Parishioners,

Your newly elected parish council completed the oath of office yesterday and will begin fulfilling our commitment to you effective immediately. We have met and elected officers. They are as follows:

  • President - Dimitrios Tsagaris 

  • 1st Vice President – Dr. Philip Kithas 
  • 2nd Vice President – Dr. Demetrios (Tykie) Skedros 
 
  • Treasurer - Gus Colessides 

  • Assistant Treasurer - Chris Sakellariou 
 
  • Secretary - Alicia Kastanis Mares 
 
  • Corresponding Secretary – Dr. Maria Oneida-Hardwick 
Our goal is to unite the community and return it to the vibrant Greek Orthodox Church and community it once was. We have a lot of work ahead of us and we are confident that each of you will help us in any way you see fit. We will communicate with you and keep you informed on ALL community issues as soon as we engage in the transition process and have a better understanding of the current status. We thank you for giving us the opportunity to be of service.

Your Parish Council,

George Adondakis - Gus Colessides - Steve Gamvroulas - Dr. Maria Oneida Hardwick - Dr. Phillip Kithas - Alicia Kastanis Mares - Thomas Peters - Chris Sakellariou - Sakis Sakellariou* - Pete Saltas - Pete Sefakis - Dr. Demetrios (Tykie) Skedros - Dimitrios Tsagaris
  • One of the top priorities of the new board is to have the remaining elected board members, Mr.Nick Bapis and Mr. Yannis Armaou be ratified and join us.
*Moderator's Note: Mr. Sakis Sakellariou will be sworn in upon his return from Greece where he is visiting a gravely ill relative.

Monday, May 21, 2012

BILL PAULOS EXTENDS CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEWLY ELECTED P.C.

Congratulations to all of those willing to serve our community.

Clearly we have all won a tremendous victory by filling our parish council with strong, courageous people with a vision for local control and a unified future.

To the new members: you have an opportunity to be one of the most historically significant parish council’s in the history of our community. Stay strong, show courage to make the tough decisions.

Let’s provide the leadership to change the direction of our community:

  1. New leadership 
  2. Local control of decision making
  3. Balance the budget (as a result of the new leadership and re-connection of the disenfranchised)
  4. Be one community 
I salute each of you for taking this opportunity and I am volunteering to support you in any way you wish.

Thank you again and congratulations,

Bill Paulos

Sunday, May 20, 2012

OUR NEW LEADERSHIP

We would like to congratulate our newly elected Parish Council.

  • George Adondakis 
  • Yannis Armaou
  • Nick M. Bapis
  • Gus Colessides
  • Steve Gamvroulas
  • Dr. Maria Oneida Hardwick
  • Dr. Phillip Kithas 
  • Alicia Kastanis Mares
  • Thomas Peters
  • Chris Sakellariou
  • Sakis Sakellariou
  • Pete Saltas 
  • Pete Sefakis
  • Dr. Demetrios (Tykie) Skedros
  • Dimitrios Tsagaris
Thank you as well to all who voted today.

Let us all truly hope this is the beginning for a fresh start for our beloved and united church community!

Thursday, May 17, 2012

THE STUFF OF "LEADERSHIP"???


Mr. Floor, as president of the interim parish council, was recently asked by the director of the St. Sophia School at Prophet Elias to hold off on refinishing the gymnasium floor at Prophet Elias until the conclusion of the current school year at the end of May. Mr. Floor disregarded this sensible request and almost immediately allowed work to begin on refinishing the gym floor. The resultant fumes have caused students and faculty at the school to become ill, and have forced the school to hold classes outside in the pavilion. The situation has generally disrupted academics during the final month of the school year. Some parents have been forced to keep children home, have had to readjust work schedules, etc. Further, the Board of Health was called in to investigate and found the fumes to be highly noxious. Based on the health inspector's recommendations, it was required, last night, that the door be opened, and that fans had to be brought in, further that security had to be arranged for - all, in order to help mitigate the noxious odors. Surely, the well-being of people - especially school children! - ought to have taken precedence over finishing a gym floor!

Mr. Floor claims the issue has been "politicized". If it has, it is he - and ONLY HE - who has caused it to be so! There is nothing "political" or unfair in judging the actions and consequences of actions of one who purports to be our leader. Time and again Mr. Floor  has made arbitrary decisions without considering the potential consequences to others or, ultimately, to the community. (We assume, however, he will be magnanimous! He will, of course, be willing to forgive the people who have complained about headaches and nausea, along with a disrupted school year for children and parents, due to his poor judgment!) If this is the stuff of "leadership", may our Lord please spare us from such "leaders"!

It has also come to our attention that at the Metropolis Council meeting in Denver, on May 5th, the assessment of the Archdiocese for the years 2011 and 2012 for our community was discussed.  Interestingly, it appears that $100,000 has been credited to our community for 2011 from the "cushion" the Metropolis holds (by simply assessing all other communities for our community's debts, along with those of any other community whose assessment might be in arrears) leaving a balance of $37,000 for 2011, plus $146,000 for 2012.

Having been present at the meeting, at what point was Mr. Floor planning on sharing this information with the community?  Surely such information warranted a letter, a blast e-mail - something! - to the members of this community? At our general assembly, the budget shown reflected the entire amount of  $137,000 for 2011.  Oddly enough, our weekly bulletins at church inform us of clergy trips to monasteries, yet Mr. Floor cannot manage to include - somewhere, or anywhere - this extremely important information?  

Additionally, it appears that Mr. Floor may have reached an agreement with the executive board and the finance committee of the Metropolis as to how our community's outstanding balance will be paid.  He's acting in haste. It is not yet known if he will hold any position which would allow him to "negotiate" on behalf of this community's interests in such a discussion. If at the moment he has brokered a "deal", would this not also be important information for Mr. Floor to share with the parishioners of this community - those who ultimately will pay this balance?  The stewards of this community deserve to know exactly what kind of an agreement did Mr. Floor reach?

One would think that having been rebuked over and over again for his past oversights, omissions, mistakes and transgressions, ones that would have compelled in our parents' and grandparents' day a resignation, surely Mr. Floor would have been more circumspect in his judgments and more transparent in his actions. Apparently, not. Clearly we can expect the same old secrecy with Mr. Floor's re-election.

Phill Floor now claims, along with candidates: Mr Mylonakis, Mr. Priskos, Mrs. Kiriev (who should not be allowed to run since her spouse serves as Deacon, but only at P.E.), Mrs. Manatos-Shand, and Ms. Zambos, to be UNITERS! 

All along the record shows that these particular nominees have worked TIRELESSLY to DIVIDE, NOT UNITE, our communit
y! Let us consider these circumstances when we vote. Let us remember persons who are not in any way supportive of UNITY for our beloved Greek Orthodox Community of Greater Salt Lake.

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

LET THE DIVIDERS STOP, AND THE UNITERS START!

As we look forward to the first free and fair elections in this community in nearly three years:

  • let us remember who was strong in their support for this community's unity and progress; 
  • let us support those who stood, and who will stand, for this community's healing; 
  • let us cast our votes for stewards who squarely defended, and continue to defend, the legacy of our wise and visionary Greek Orthodox ancestors. 
Let us further encourage that when voting we consider candidates:
  • who did not previously participate in, or seek to justify, unbalanced, one-sided, non-elected councils that represented only a very small minority; 
  • who did not stand by and watch faithful stewards castigated, and unethical behavior condoned, and offered excuses such as, "well, the bishop or the priest wants it this way"; 
  • who did not allow, or who thwarted, audits mandated by both the UPRs and civil law in order to ensure proper and transparent governance; 
  • and, who were not engaged these past years in stifling stewards from participating in their own community's governance. 
Several people who served on, or who condoned, these unelected, unrepresentative, appointive councils are running again, claiming NOW to be FOR UNITY! These same people served, contrary to the UPRs, as unelected "leaders" for far too long.

It is now time for others - for people of good will, for people who are fair - to serve on the Parish Council in this community. It is well past time that other stewards are given the opportunity to humbly, honestly and ethically serve this community. We should look for leaders who will work with each other - even though they might disagree at times.


We should also look for leaders, who, while being respectful to the clergy, will seek and assert a more balanced role for the laity. This is a problem which, sadly, has persisted here, and in other Greek Orthodox communities in this country, for far too long.


Be sure when you cast your ballot that you have marked AT LEAST 8, AND NO MORE THAN 15 CANDIDATES. After marking your choices, carefully COUNT the number of "X"s you have placed on the ballot and make sure you have no fewer than 8, no more than 15. Otherwise the ballot will be declared invalid. 


Also, please make sure you vote on May 20th, or, if you cannot be present, please make sure to get an absentee ballot and cast your vote by calling: (H.T 801-328-9681 P.E 801-277-2693) 


EVERY VOTE IS IMPORTANT! (See unofficial ballot)


Note: for our Greek speakers/readers, this article is also translated in Greek. See the previous article.

ΑΥΤΟΙ ΠΟΥ ΘΕΛΟΥΝ ΝΑ ΔΙΑΙΡΕΣΟΥΝ ΑΣ ΣΤΑΜΑΤΗΣΟΥΝ, ΚΑΙ ΑΣ ΑΡΧΙΣΟΥΝ ΑΥΤΟΙ ΠΟΥ ΕΠΙΘΥΜΟΥΝ ΝΑ ΕΝΩΣΟΥΝ

Περιμένοντας τις πρώτες ελεύθερες και δίκαιες εκλογές της κοινότητάς μας μετά από σχεδόν τρία χρόνια:

  • Θυμηθείτε αυτούς που στήριξαν δυναμικά την ενότητά της - 
  • Ας υποστηρίξουμε όσους προσπάθησαν και θα συνεχίσουν να προσπαθούν για την βελτίωσή της - 
  • Ας ψηφίσουμε γι’ αυτούς που υπερασπίστηκαν και θα συνεχίσουν να υπερασπίζονται την κληρονομιά των προγόνων μας.
Θα σας παρακαλοὐσαμε όταν ψηφίσετε να υποστηρίξετε υποψήφιους:
  • Που δεν έχουν λάβει μέρος ή δεν προσπαθούν να δικαιολογήσουν μονομερή, μη-εκλεγέντα συμβούλια που αντιπροσώπευαν μία μικρή μειονότητα - 
  • Που δεν αδιαφόρησαν όταν έβλεπαν πιστά μέλη της κοινότητάς μας να τιμωρούνται αλύπητα, και όταν ανέντιμη συμπεριφορά παραβλέπονταν με δικαιολογίες όπως «ο μητροπολίτης ή ο ιερέας το ζήτησε» - 
  • Που δεν επέτρεψαν ή προσπάθησαν με κάθε μέσο να εμποδίσουν τον έλεγχο λογαριασμών που σύμφωνα καί με τους κανονισμούς της Εκκλησίας καί με τον νόμο της Πολιτείας είναι απαραίτητος για την κατάλληλη διακυβέρνηση της κοινότητας - 
  • και που δεν ασχολήθηκαν αυτά τα τελευταία χρόνια με το πώς θα εμποδίσουν τους υπόλοιπους ενορίτες από το να συμμετέχουν στη διακυβέρνηση της ίδιας τους της κοινότητας.

Αρκετοί από αυτούς που συμμετείχαν ή που υποστήριξαν αυτά τα μη εκλεγέντα, μη αντιπροσωπευτικά, διορισμένα συμβούλια, είναι υποψήφιοι σε αυτές τις εκλογές και ΤΩΡΑ ισχυρίζονται ότι είναι υποστηρικτές της ΕΝΟΤΗΤΑΣ! Είναι αυτοί οι ίδιοι που υπηρέτησαν στα διορισμένα συμβούλια ενάντια στους κανονισμούς της Εκκλησίας.

Είναι καιρός άλλοι – δίκαιοι και καλοπροαίρετοι – ενορίτες να εκλεγούν στο Κοινοτικό μας Συμβούλιο. Πρέπει να δοθεί η ευκαιρία σε άλλους που επιθυμούν να υπηρετήσουν ταπεινά, ειλικρινά και έντιμα αυτή την κοινότητα. Πρέπει να εκλέξουμε ηγέτες που θα μπορούν να συνεργαστούν μεταξύ τους, έστω και αν υπάρξουν ορισμένες διαφωνίες κατά καιρούς.

Επίσης, πρέπει να εκλέξουμε ηγέτες που, παρόλο θα δείχνουν σεβασμό στους ιερείς, θα μπορέσουν να διεκδικήσουν ένα πιο ισορροπημένο και σημαντικό ρόλο για τους μη κληρικούς. Και αυτό είναι δυστυχώς ένα μεγάλο πρόβλημα που έχει εμφανιστεί τελευταία τόσο εδώ, όσο και σε άλλες Ελληνικές Ορθόδοξες κοινότητες της χώρας.

Βεβαιωθείτε ότι όταν συμπληρώνεται το ψηφοδέλτιό σας, να ψηφίσετε για ΤΟΥΛΑΧΙΣΤΟΝ 8, ΑΛΛΑ ΟΧΙ ΠΕΡΙΣΣΟΤΕΡΟΥΣ ΑΠΟ 15 ΥΠΟΨΗΦΙΟΥΣ. Αφού σημειώσετε τις επιλογές σας, μετρήστε προσεκτικά τα «Χ» που τοποθετήσατε ώστε να είστε σίγουροι ότι έχετε όχι λιγότερα από 8, ούτε περισσότερα από 15. Διαφορετικά το ψηφοδέλτιό σας θα είναι άκυρο.

Μη ξεχάσετε να ψηφίσετε στις 20 Μαίου. Αν δεν μπορέσετε να είστε παρόντες, ζητήστε να σας σταλεί το ψηφοδέλτιο ταχυδρομικά. (τηλέφωνα Α.Τ. 801-328-9681, Π.Η. 801-277-2693) ΚΑΘΕ ΨΗΦΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΣΗΜΑΝΤΙΚΗ! (δείτε εσώκλειστο ανεπίσημο ψηφοδέλτιο)

Thursday, May 3, 2012

Please come to Denver...

...to see the snowfall...

"Please come to Boston"...

The above lyrics from the beautiful song (with apologies to Dave Loggins) could be the next destination of the proistameno-of-Prophet-Elias-only.

Not exactly Boston, as he made that attempt, and was rejected.

We are in a position to know that there will be a position open in Denver. Since his Eminence holds the  Proistameno-of-Prophet-Elias-only in such high regard, perhaps he can accommodate him, and have him close to him.

In 2002, the Proistameno-of-Prophet-Elias-only triumphantly declared that he was being assigned to our community because he was a trouble-shooter.  After almost 10 years, we have come to realize that the trouble-shooter is, and has been, instead, a trouble maker!

Mercifully, his time here IS UP!

- Yannis Armaou

Saturday, April 28, 2012

LET THE GAMES GO ON, AND ON, AND ON .......

We recently posted a couple of blog articles (Let the Games Begin / Let the Games Continue) that a member of the finance committee objected to; specifically, he had a problem with our comparing the impasse we keep witnessing to “a game” to be won or lost. The irony of this statement is obvious.

The reference to "let the games begin" is an historic allusion to the Roman period, where so many early church members met their fate in the arena. It is also an accurate description and apt metaphor describing a small minority's ongoing and continuing attempts to split the community. They want this to happen no matter what they have to do to accomplish it, or how badly it continues to damage our community and its parishioners.

Instead of simply holding the upcoming assembly, looking for ways forward, and having an election, we are witnessing ongoing gamesmanship on the part of this minority that clings to power and to a discredited set of aspirations (please specifically see the “policies” section buried at the end of the assembly packet) they still seek to foist on the community.

We are told that there is no appreciation for the time and efforts of these people. Regrettably, there has been a lack of appreciation all around. Throwing other hard-working, dedicated stewards under the bus including stewards who have served for several decades, members of the Audit Committee, elected HCF board members, nominees who have been culled, largely for simply daring to disagree, secret negotiations for dividing the community, clergy and hierarchical threats of sanctions, etc. - all seem to have become standard procedure these past years.

We didn't hear or or see this person being overly upset when others were castigated, culled, called "robbers", were banned from entering their own church, were forbidden to take part in services, had their faithfulness and reputations questioned, and, in one of the most egregious instances, had their livelihood and that of their family threatened. No one saw this gentleman, or his like-minded cronies, step forward in defense of other equally dedicated stewards.

Further, he asserts that there was a poor management model in running two churches under one council. Major companies run operational entities throughout the world under one overall Board of Directors. Are we to believe that two relatively tiny entities, each within a 20-minute driving distance from the other within the same city, in the age of the Internet, cannot be effectively governed by one Parish Council? It is not the model that is flawed; it is the management team, its intent and its style.

We agree that Parish Councils - fairly ELECTED ones - might name a variety of their members to various committees without appointing unelected “consultants”. The UPRs do not mention “consultants”, referring most likely to intra-council expertise. But, fine, we acknowledge it's been done in the past. During a time when the rest of this nonsense was not occurring, unelected committee appointees probably would not be an issue. Right now, however, we have yet another unelected, appointed person, representing a minority view, telling a sorely tried majority what they must do.

This nonsense should have stopped long ago. The survey told them, the Archbishop told them, several votes have told them, the Special General Assembly told them – they don’t have the numbers.

The gentleman asserts that the majority’s resistance efforts and rhetoric has driven an "irreversible" wedge in this community. In fact, that wedge exists and persists because a small group of people, along with clerics, still trying to "save face", continue to wrangle for things this community does not want or need.

They still seek to shove through their own agenda, to eliminate the Hellenic Cultural Foundation (which was overwhelmingly enacted by the General Assembly as a fundraising model utterly similar to Leadership 100 - and whose members were ELECTED), to see this community foreswear its historic legal exception that allows it to own its own assets. The answer was NO last November despite threats and intimidation; it should be NO now.

Finally, there is the assertion that the dissension and game-playing overshadows the church's mission of salvation. That is the real point, isn't it? Our hierarchy and clergy, thanks to the misbegotten new charter and UPRs, are now becoming Machiavellian politicians, CEOs, fundraisers, tax collectors, day-to-day administrators, apparently more interested in their own prerogatives than in their apostolic duty toward their flock - ALL their flock - among whom they have sown further dissension.

George Santayana, philosopher, said it best. "Fanaticism is redoubling your effort when you've lost your aim."

Friday, April 27, 2012

URGENT! - URGENT! - URGENT!


Dear Parishioners,

Please be aware that the General Assembly package contains 3 policies relating to financial matters.

These 3 policies should not be passed or adopted for the following reasons:

First, they attempt to implement the two resolutions, defeated soundly by a 3-to-2 decision of the Special General Assembly in November 2011, while some of us were left out waiting in the cold.  The Metropolitan still is trying to make an end-run around the Parish Assembly.

Second, there are no safeguards for the community; and,

Third, the “policies” have not been thoroughly vetted by our community.  The “policies” need to be discussed, by experts from our community, and then placed before the general assembly for consideration.

Anything and everything that diminishes the right of the General Assembly to be in total and complete charge of our financial health, should not be passed.

Any other reason given by the proponents for the passage of the policies is bogus; they only want to do the bidding of the Denver Metropolitan.

Let’s us be ever so vigilant to safeguard our community.  Let us NOT be intimidated; we must not succumb to anyone’s threats.

Please come and attend the General Assembly next Sunday.  Please fill out and return your stewardship pledge.

Best regards,

Nick J. Colessides

Tuesday, April 24, 2012

PART 2 - LET THE GAMES CONTINUE! (see previous blog: LET THE GAMES BEGIN!)

A member recently sent us an e-mail and "requested/suggested" that the blog moderators post a “rebuttal” in answer to the Audit Committee Report for the year 2009. The member implies that since the Audit Report of 2009 has been discussed on the blog, it might be “fair” to post such a response. The gentleman making the request is a member of the "Finance Committee." (One might be tempted to consider what a swell job they have done! Oh, and by the way, under what authority does such a committee exist? Appointment/election by the General Assembly? No. Mentioned in the much-vaunted UPRs? NO.) At any rate, he and that committee, whoever they may be, hold absolutely no authority according to the UPRs, subsequently leaving his request - or is it a demand? - somewhat moot.

No matter. He brings up an old and dead issue that could have easily been addressed in a more timely manner. Instead it is brought up nearly TWO YEARS later. After all, we've had all kinds of other decrees, demands and assertions sent out by the various unrepresentative, appointed parish councils these past long years, who have had unlimited control over this community’s checkbook, haven't we? (We would further point out that the Audit Report was discussed on this site AFTER its presentation to the community and not before.)

The fact is, the ELECTED Audit Committee did NOT exceed its reach or its duty. The committee reported on the documentation for that year that the existing parish council and clergy ALLOWED them to see. They were delayed for weeks due to stalling, demands for signatures on questionable confidentiality agreements, etc. Nowhere did the Auditors – again, ELECTED by the General Assembly – exceed their authority. In fact, they probably were overly gentle in their conclusions, despite outrageous provocations, hoping, vainly, to unite and to heal this sorely tried community.

Furthermore, a "rebuttal" to an audit committee's work is apparently heretofore unheard of and questionable. We have taken time to inquire as to the issue to several out-of-state ecclesiastical contacts – thus far, we have found that this just hasn't happened anywhere else. We should also consider that the last audit we had, again, by a duly elected, properly qualified, audit committee was in 2009.

It is now 2012! Under these same UPRs, that these people are so fond of cherry-picking and quoting, should we not have had further audits? Especially under these trying circumstances? Surely.

We have also learned that the justification given by those who have pushed for this rebuttal NOW, is that they are simply reporting and answering the questions from the audit in the next "regular" general assembly. Strangely enough, however, the minutes from the June 6, 2010 meeting where, in addition to the Audit Committee’s report to the community, other key motions passed and were to be part of the official record, have not been copied and distributed. Official records which are key to the type of discussion THEY wish to hold are NOT included in the packet! (We would herein note that the 2010 meeting was also videotaped by a member, since resigned, but then serving on the parish council. There is NO EXCUSE as to why this record is not included!)

Is it not curious that current appointed parish council members, who were also serving at that time as well, have claimed that they did not send a the rebuttal earlier since this Sunday's meeting will be our next "regular" General Assembly - a damning statement in and of itself! The UPRs they LOVE to quote clearly spell out how often communities are to hold REGULAR GENERAL ASSEMBLIES!

So - you want the rebuttal posted here, Mr. Finance Committee Member? Fine. Produce the minutes from that last “regular” General Assembly held nearly TWO YEARS AGO, and we will gladly post everything!

We recognize only too well that this so-called “request” and “rebuttal” is merely the latest ploy designed to allow those who, like you, have sought to split our community, sully our heritage, and who have sundered this community, in order to justify the unjustifiable.

Say, assert what you will. Play the games you want. Fact is: We WILL NOT permit it!

PART 1 - LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

The packet parishioners have picked up from church for the general assembly on Sunday contains the January 31, 2010 minutes, the November 20, 2011 "Special Parish Assembly" minutes, but not the June 6, 2010 General Assembly minutes!

This is a bizarre omission! These minutes, from what was, supposedly our last official scheduled General Assembly, are critical to our community and should be included. At that assembly the Audit Committee presented its report - a report which is highly important to the official record.

Also at this meeting, Mr. Nick Bapis presented a report to the Assembly that was ultimately accepted as part of the official record of the meeting. That record/report should be included in the packet. At that time, Mr. Bapis had initially attempted to introduce and to have placed on the agenda discussion regarding this proposed resolution. His request, perfectly legal and normal, was denied by then-appointed Parish Council. The document was, however, distributed to the attending membership at the assembly in hard copy.

Despite the Parish Council's refusal to place this discussion on the agenda, a resolution, based on the initial document, was ultimately discussed, passed and was voted to be included in the official record and minutes of that June 6, 2010 meeting.

Additionally, in that meeting, the assembly accepted to remove from the Treasurer's (Mr. Floor’s) report the $1.2 million as a loss. That amended detail should be attached to the original report, AND, that report should be included in the packet.

A FURTHER QUESTION: Where is the report? WHERE, IN THE CURRENT “OFFICIAL” PACKET, IS THE OFFICIAL RECORD FROM THE LAST “REGULAR” GENERAL ASSEMBLY? 

We are being asked to consider a now-two-year-old-response to the 2009 AUDIT COMMITTEE REPORT, so why aren’t we allowed to see the MINUTES from the same general assembly where the report was presented?

THE ULTIMATE QUESTION: WHY ARE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED GENERAL ASSEMBLY NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE FOR THIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY!?