Take Our Church Back!: ONE COMMUNITY ONE CARD !

Monday, February 28, 2011

ONE COMMUNITY ONE CARD !

In today's email from the parish council.....
"As the Parish Council has repeatedly stated, the two cards are being used for one purpose and one purpose only: to understand which church (or churches) members of the combined parish will choose to identify with in the event that two separate parishes are ultimately established. "

What is it that the hand picked parish council can not understand?

That we will not and do not want to split?

That 87% said no to split in 2007?

We choose BOTH churches!

That united we stand?

One card for BOTH churches!

PEOPLE DO NOT PLEDGE TO COLOR CARDS!
PURE WHITE IS THE COLOR!

Yannis Armaou

4 comments:

Zeta Tsagaris said...: This was my reply to the parish council regarding their latest stewardship card communication: Wouldn't it be right and more logical to wait and see IF two separate parishes will be established first and then let people identify with one of the two or both? How about people who are still undecided? If this "hypothetical" reason is the only real reason (as you say) that you do not accept people's pledges and return parishioner's checks, then I suggest that you all seek professional help immediately to try to find out what is wrong with you!; February 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Jim Sefandonakis said...: United we stand, divided we fall. They are demanding we pick a side.
By choosing a side they are trying to divide us, that simple. I pick one United Community that works together undivided for the cause of the entire group. I do not choose a small minority group telling me to pick a side. Our community has remained strong and healthy all of these years working together as one. Look at us now.
Jim Sefandonakis; February 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Bill Rekouniotis said...: United we stand, united we fall.; February 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM
Steve Gamvroulas said...: I think the rest of them should resign tomorrow as well.; February 28, 2011 at 7:58 PM

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CONSEQUENCES OF UPR "THEOCRACY"

The UPRs, as currently enacted, have succeeded in proving that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Having witnessed events first-hand for so long now, it is hard not to come to the sad conclusion that some of our clergy actually seem to relish the controversy, despite any inherent intellect, ability and talent.

Unfortunately this “brave new church”, spawned by these vaunted UPRs, and by this ridiculous and inept notion of the church as a military-style hierarchy, fosters a lack of humility, tact and compassion. It promotes utter disrespect and disregard for the laity, which, in turn, promotes disrespect for the clergy. The schism the regulations profess to prevent is the schism they are now engendering.

FALSE INFO? WE DON'T THINK SO!

The Metropolitan accuses many of providing false information with regard to parish property. He cites that the UPRs state that the parish holds title to all its real estate and personal property. He asks "what is the argument"?

One could be tempted to find comfort in this citation, if not for two other existing UPR conditions.

The first is that the Parish Council holds all control of said properties owned by the parish. Since the Parish Council can be disbanded, presumably at the whim of a peevish hierarch, where has the control shifted?

Second, if the laity becomes so exasperated with this sorry state of affairs that it reduces funding (the only real power left to it under an obnoxious system where the laity is utterly marginalized) and if a community is declared in disarray, or in schism, it is the hierarchy that comes in to take the real property. (This action was, in fact, attempted in 2009 in Charlottesville, Virginia.)

CONSIDER ...

There is a danger in the amassing of the Church property under one control. As the Catholic Church learned (the hard way) in sexual abuse cases that the the entire property holding will be subjected to payment of a lawsuit. Much better to decentralize!

This is a well-known business practice where corporations incorporate separate facilities so if one has poor results it can be dissolved without damaging the entire corporation. A single store could become bankrupt but not the whole.

- Peter C. Peropoulos - Houston, Texas

THE CHURCH AND THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE

From the Special General Assembly, June 27th, 1999: "First and foremost we are a church (ekklesia--meaning the people) any decisions should help minister to the people, effective, and efficient ministering to our peers. The Church has to do with people; people are the most important." - Fr. John Kaloudis

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«Η έκκλησία δεv είvαι εξoυσία, ειvαι διακovεία.»

"The Church's purpose in not that of dominion or power; it is that of service."

- Ieronymos, Archbishop of Athens and All Greece

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“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”

- The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

ON A COLD AND RAINY OCTOBER AFTERNOON ...

Today, October 24th, 2010, at 2:00 p.m. nearly 350 Greek Orthodox Christians gathered to say that voices may NOT be stilled or stifled. Of those who attended, 347 registered to participate and to vote; 339 actually cast ballots. Three questions (in synopsis form here) were asked, with both English and Greek ballots provided:

1. Asked if those assembled agreed with the decreed split, or if they would prefer to remain united. Vote: 328-FOR UNITY; 11-FOR SPLITTING

2. Asked if those assembled would favor the formation of a committee to appeal to the Archdiocese, the Eparchial Synod, and the Patriarchate. Vote: 330-FOR; 9-AGAINST

3. Asked if those assembled favored exploring legal action to prevent or challenge the division of the Parish in civil court, recognizing that the option would involve considerable expense. Vote: 248-FOR; 91-AGAINST

“Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,

and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

But it shall not be so among you:

but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto,

but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:25-28, KJV)

Monday, February 28, 2011

ONE COMMUNITY ONE CARD !

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TRANSLATION? (Please note the translations are not exact)

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A QUESTION OF "RESPECT"?

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

HELLENIC MUSINGS

Misconstrued? WE THINK NOT!

One Year Later!

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